Leah Villari Post 10

In this week's reading of The Facts In The Case Of The Departure Of Miss Finch, Miss Finch seems to be an outcast in the sense that she is socially akward. She corrects the people around her and comes off as if she is much more knowledgable then everyone else. This may be the case but because of her attitude, she could be considered a social outcast. The fact that in the end of the story the group doesn't wait to see where Miss Finch is seems to mean that they really don't care where she ends up. It seemed like they were almost trying to get rid of her the whole time, especially when they call the narrator to accompany them.

Miss Finch is an outcast because of her over the top "matter of fact" attitude. The other characters can't relate her and possibly are not as knowledgable as Miss Finch. Miss Finch seems to be filled with facts that can't relate to what young adults normally have discussions about. This is relatable to Marjane because she is also very smart and takes an interest in what's going on around her. She seems to understand what's going on more then her classmates do. Because of this, others may be intimidated by her intelligence. Marjane had her own set of views and knew what she believed in and wanted for her country. She knows what she wants and this fact can be seen as a turnoff to others around her. This may be why she is viewed as in outcast in society.

Bobby Stroud

Once again we see the idea of an outcast within society portrayed in the two stories that we read this week. One which was "The Facts in the Case of the Departure of Miss Finch" by Neil Gaiman in which the main character is misunderstood and alienated. Miss Finch, who is characterized as somewhat of a "know-it-all" scientist is not well liked by those who surround her simply because of the way shes acts. Her lack of communication skills and and arrogance cause many to keep their distance.

The other story was "The Complete Persepolis" by Marjane Satrapi. In this the main character Marji, is a native of Iran and we view her life as she goes through different tribulations in this country. However for a child, she behaves very maturely and handles her situations in an adult manner. Despite this she still feels alone and misunderstood which in my eyes classifies her as somewhat of an outcast.

Ashlyn Zgoda Post 10

Marjane Satrapi's graphic novel Persepolis is by far my favorite thing we've read in class, and not just because it is in comic book style. I really enjoy Satrapi's writing style and how she tells the story. And the pictures just add to the story. Its very interesting watching the girl as time progresses in the book from revolts to the war and so on. In the beginning she does not know much and just takes in what she is told by others. Then we see her progressively begin to form her own ideas on the topics of what is happening in her country. How aware she is of everything that is going on makes me reflect on how I didn't know much of anything that was going on in my country when I was younger. I still don't to this day. I don't even remember what I was doing on the day of 9/11 which is a very catastrophic event in our history. so to see how much she knew of what was going on really impacted me, and made the book more interesting.

Brittany Coppinger Post 10(?)

I was a little apprehensive when we started ready Persepolis this week. I wasn't sure if i was going to like reading a graphic novel. I didn't know if it would keep my interest or be as good of a read as another standard novel. I'm am happy to say i was wrong. I am way more interested then i originally thought i would be. In fact, I can't wait until I can get home every day and read a little more of the book. It's funny, which is what i wasnt expected. I think that the humor is needed because the issue of the revolution in Iran is very serious and i think viewing it from the perspective allows us to take a step back and take a look at the whole picture without putting our own feelings into it. The book is full of so much emotion (and not just negative, angsty emotion) that it doesnt need any of ours. Its really easy to emerse yourself into the character, which I really like. I love getting lost in a book, and i think the fact that this is a graphic novel makes it that much easier. There is a lot you can get from the text, but the images just add to their meaning. So far, Persepolis gets an A+ in my book

Adam Swift Post # 10

I really enjoyed reading Persepolis this week. The comic makes for a very easy read. I have learned a few things regarding the Islamic revolution in Iran as well. The main character Marjane is brought up in a family that is somewhat less religious than most of the others in the community. It was made mandatory for the woman to cover their hair at this time. Marjane and her mother wore less conservative veils in order to show their opposition to the new regime. The frame on page 125 is a great example of what Marjane and her family think of the new dress code. They are looking out at their neighbors while the mother says look just last year those beefy thighs were out for everyone to see and now she is covered head to toe in a chador. This scene also exemplifies Marjane’s role as an outcast in Iranian society. Marjane also wears a different patterned veil at times to show her opposition. Marjane’s parents at one point explain to her how she needs to lie about how many times a day she prays. This is probably an attempt for her to blend into the general public. This story also reminds me of the movie called Not Without My Daughter. An American family visits Iran and ends up getting stuck in the country during the revolution. After reading this comic I plan on looking for some more graphic novels because they are enjoyable to read and at the same time the graphics help illustrate a clear meaning of the passage also they eliminate the burden of reading a lengthy novel.

Molly Rutter, Post #10

In “The Facts in the Case of the Departure of Miss Finch”, Miss Finch is shown to be an awkward character that others struggle to relate to. In Persepolis, Marjane is depicted as a curious girl who is abnormally intuitive for her young age. Both of these characters can be considered outcasts, and for similar reasoning: They are misunderstood by those that surround them.

Miss Finch is outcasted due to her peculiar knowledge and interest in science. It can be seen throughout the story that while interacting with Miss Finch, the other characters struggle to relate to, let alone understand her topics of conversation. Similarly, Marjane is outcasted by her abnormal interest in the war in Iran. She stands out among her classmates in that she possesses such a strong understanding of the details and history of the rebellion. Essentially, these characters are different from the outcasts we have previously read about, for they are unique due to their internal mindsets, and not their external appearances.

Post #10

Miss. Finch from Neil Gaiman's "The Facts In the Case of the Departure of Miss. Finch" could be considered an outcast. The other characters in the story, Jonathan, Jane, and the narrator do not seem to be fond of Miss. Finch's company. Miss. Finch doesn't exactly have a great grasp on social interaction with other people. She often appears to be very passionate about her work as a "biogeologist." This can be seen by the numerous facts she brings up in conversation about parasites found in raw meat or about the last appearances of the Smilodon, a prehistoric saber-tooth cat. Miss. Finch's lack of people skills often leaves her at distance from forming proper friendships and relationships. She is often described in a way which makes her seem snobbish and strict, and as a result of this, people interact with her only out of obligation. Miss. Finch seems to be misunderstood because of her lack of social etiquette. When she is speaking of the Smilodons, the narrator catches a glimpse beyond the barricades she has built around herself, and he finds that he is genuinely interested in what she has to say. She too has dreams and passions, her ways of expressing these are just a bit more rough than other people's expressions of their desires. Chelsa Wlodarczyk, Post #10

Laura Giunta Post 10

This week we discussed a novel by Marjane Satrapi called "The Complete Persepolis." It is a novel length comic book she wrote to show others her life during the Islamic Revolution. Life was very difficult for everyone in Iran at this time. Women began to have to wear veils to cover themselves so they would be different to men. As a young girl, Marjane was very smart. She had her own thoughts about what was going on in her world, and she stood by them. It was very hard for her though, because her parents would tend to think differently.
Marjane is an outcast in this story, not because of how she looks, but because she wants to be. She could change her ways and conform with the rest of society but she does not want to. In class we had discussed how she wears a different colored veil in order to stand out from the rest of the people. Marjane is a person who wants to be heard and not put in the corner. I found it very sad that during this time when children's fathers were being put in jail because of their beliefs, Marjane was upset that her father was not. She wanted to have an exciting family story about being tortured or suffering. It is sad to think of such young children having to grow up in a time of war and thinking that way.

Post .... Persepolis!

Sorry, totally lost on these post numbers. This weeks (week of 4/4-4/8) post is about Persepolis . A book I have read and admired for years. This book explains the story of a young girl growing up in Iran during the Islamic Revolution. I love this book. I am pretty sure I chose this class based on that book. I had read it previous and had an English discussion about it back then. Its kind of ironic that the points we bring up are the same point that's had been brought up in my English class. The books style, which is to me why the book is a huge hit with people, is comic book style. Its form is serious yet in a image heavy book. Its nothing like Superman comics I have or the Manga stories of love and romance. It is a tale of a life, during a hard time. Spoken from her own experience almost. Its like an nonficiton novel, told through a kids perspective, so some one the truth is twisted into a plot of relations, power, and oppression. Its funny, cause reading the story you don't think one would take it seriously, like its not the first thing that popped into my head when I grabbed the book for the first time. Yet reading the story, as some parts seem ridiculous, its tale is scary. The fact the little kids played shot the other people in as if it was like playing tag. When you read the story, there is a dry humor no one except those who lived it understand, yet it comes off as slightly disturbing because we would never want to see kids that game outside!

Nadia Post something

This week most of our time was spent discussing "The Complete Persepolis" about Marjane Satrapi and her life growing up in Iran. It seems like it was a hard time growing up in theis area because there were many demonstrations and new ideas floating around which made it difficult to Marjane to understand and fully grasp things. Marjane tries very hard to try and understand everything that is going on and tries to form her own opinions about things. Sometimes when she does this she is disregarded and ignored, when she brings up her thoughts in the classroom she usually does not agree with the teacher therefore is punished for speaking against the revolution. Many people in class seemed to believe that Marjane was an outcast and to a degree I would agree, all the points that were brought up in class about how she was made complete sense. Although she is an outcast I think that she is trying very hard to understand and because of that it is not as badly outcasted as in other stories that we read. In the past stories the people usually have a physical deformity or a mental illness of some sort. This is not the case with Marjane, and in some cases I do not think it is her fault she is an outcast because she is trying very hard to know things but the government and people's ideas keep changing not allowing her to keep up. Cassidy Weeks, Post 10

Zack Schwartz Post 10

In "The Facts in the Case of the Departure of Miss Finch" by Neil Gaiman, Miss Finch is the outcast of the story. The reasons that she is cut off, however, are self inflicted. The attitude of Finch is very unappealing and she does not make any effort into assimilating into society. She is very hard to talk to as she is an intellectual and socially awkward. She feels she is always right and must constantly prove her intellectual superiority to others. If she would make an effort to get along with others better, she could undoubtedly be accepted into society. Instead, her arrogance prevailed and at the end of the story, no one even made an effort to look for her when she went missing. With a simple adjustment of attitude, she could have had many great friends.

In the book, "Persepolis" by Marjane Satrapi, Marjane was the outcast. The reasons that she became a pariah, however, are not some than can easily be adjusted. Her and her family have specific political beliefs that go against that of the mainstream government. She behaves and acts differently than much of society, so she feels very alone. She cannot just succumb to the beliefs of others like Finch could have, because the right thing to do is to stand up for what you believe in. Marjane is doing the right thing, but an effect of doing the right thing is being looked upon as an outcast. She wears different clothes and does not pray every day unlike the rest of society, but at least she is doing what she believes is right.

Jaime Wallace Post #10

This week we mainly focused on the graphic novel "The Complete Persepolis", by Marjane Satrapi. I learned in class that a graphic novel is a novel length comic book. Comic's include words or writing , pictures, and it also is a narrative, which is a story. This type or graphic novel that we are reading is an Art Comic, which shows the world in the perspective of the author. An activity we did for the first section of pages was describe our perception of Iran and if it was the same as in the graphic novel. Before reading any of this novel I thought that Iran was full of desert and sand, and i also thought that people walked everywhere becasue there was no other way of transportation. After reading the first 60 pages I realized that my perception of Iran was way different. In the graphic novel Iran is described as a modern place. The people there have nice houses and they also have cars too. My perception of Iran was very different than what was described in the novel. The next day of class we chose a frame a described how the main character was an out cast. I chose the seventh frame on page 125. The girl in this picture has a differnet design on her vail than all of the other women in the frame. Also her face is way more defined than the other people in the frame. She has big sad eyes and her eyebrows are depressing as well. Lastly I noticed that she was walking all by herself. Everyone else is in a group together and she all by herself. Jaime Wallace, Post #10

Hannah Lutley #10

This week we have talked about "The Facts in the Case of the Departure of Miss Finch" by Neil Gaiman where we saw Miss Finch as an outcast and we also read the "The Complete Persepolis" by Marjane Satrapi where Marji can be seen as an outcast. For Miss Finch she was seen as different and abnormal to her society and we see this by how they treat her. When she is kidnapped by the underground circus, her friends do nothing to try and save her. From this we can see that people find her annoying and different and do not like having her around so they are not concerned about what happened to her.
In reading "The Complete Persepolis" by Marjane Satrapi we first learn that a graphic novel is a comic book in novel length. In this novel we see the young girl Marji as an outcast. In class we made many valid points to where we see her as an outcast, but in my view she is different but not necessarily an outcast. She is living in a world fill with issues and she is just a young girl trying to make her way through it. Yes she is different from many children in school because she knows so much about the war but I wouldn't say that, that makes her an outcast.

maggie demarco post 10

While reading Neil Gaiman's, "The Facts in the Case of the Departure of Miss Finch," it is clear that Miss Finch is an outcast of society. She is socially awkward and she has a sense of almost being rude at times. The people that interact with her dislike her character because she is a know-it-all and very quick to recite facts. When she disappears at the end of the story, people do not overly care or look for her. This could be because of her odd characteristics that ultimately contribute to her being an outcast.

Similar to this, Marjane Satrapi is also an outcast in her story for many reasons. She sets herself apart from other girls her age because she really believes she wants to be a prophet. She is advanced beyond her years, and has a true attitudinal difference then others. Not only this, but she also sets herself apart physically, by wearing a checkered veil at times, and not dressing overly conservatively.

Kaitlyn Dickey, Post 9

The episode of Glee that we watched in class this week about disabilities had many different elements to it. One of the main characters, Arty is in a wheelchair. Because of this on the way to sectionals he will have to drive with his dad instead of with the rest of Glee club because the bus cannot accomodate him and his disability. Mr. Schuester suggests that the club hold's a bake sale to raise money for a bus so Arty can join them but all the students are hesitant. They don't want to put forth the effort and they don't understand why it's a big deal. After this behavior, Mr. Schuester has all the students spend time in a wheel chair so they can understadn where Arty is coming from. I felt this was very important and effective because they finally could "take a walk in Arty's shoes". This showed them what it's like to have a disability and how Arty has to live each day. I think by the end of the episode each student had a lot more respect for what Arty has to go through.

Another discussion we had in class is whether or not people with disabilities should be treated differently then everyone else. One argument is yes, they should not be treated as harshly because they are at a big disadvantage. Another argument is no, they should be treated the same because they want to feel as normal as possible. My personal opinion is that you need to meet somewhere in the middle. It depends a lot on the situation. On one hand you should treat that person the same as everyone else, they're just different in a different way than others are, but on the other hand you should still take into account that that person is at a disadvantage. If they need help it's okay to give it, just remember to let them have some independence.

Leah Villari

In Eli Clare's The Mountain, Clare talks about her life with cerebal palsy. She talks about her struggles and the things that enjoys. One of her hobbies is planning trips to climb mountains and trails with her friend. Her friend doesn't have a disablity and this poses to be a minor setback for Clare. Because of her disease she doesn't have alot of balance and her movements are not as sturdy and certain as a normal person's might. During her climb, she talks about how her muscles burn, calves ache and the fear that is inside her as her every step is uncertain. She also talks about her love for climbing and the fact that she can even walk is what drives her every day of her life. She talks about how she makes a list of people who can walk freely and would never have the desire or the willpower to want to climb a mountain like she does. Clare seems to really appreciate and love the fact that she can do what she loves, even if it means physically only being able to go half way.

In the episode of Glee that we watched, Arty is in a wheelchair. Mr. Schuster suggests they raise money for a special bus that Arty can be wheeled into it. At first the kids are hesitant and ignorant of Arty. But when Mr. Schuster makes everyone get in a wheelchair and experience what Arty deals with everyday, they realize that he deserves more respect then what they were giving him. When Arty confronts the girl that tells him she had faked a studder to relate to him, he is clearly hurt and makes it clear that at the end of the day he's still in a wheelchair. As it is for Clare, it must be frustrating to see people take for grant what they have. For people who can walk but choose not to appreciate this seems to be wasteful in this case. This relates to the Glee episode because I think the lesson the group learned from being in wheelchairs made them realize how grateful they should be.